Jim Rutledge and Matt Hamilton hold it down on a Phish Friday reacting to last night's Packers loss to the Lions on Thursday Night Football. They discuss the Packers' offense getting off to another slow start before roaring back to life in the 2nd half, Matt LaFleur's play-calling and issues with the refs & Lions fans, and the BOLD 4th-down decisions from Detroit head coach Dan Campbell. They also give their instant reaction to the breaking news that the Badgers are nearing a deal for their next offensive coordinator -- Kansas OC Jeff Grimes. Jim, Matt and Primetime discuss what this hire indicates about the Badgers returning to the foundation that they were built upon with the power running game, and are Badgers fans getting hyped again this time around? Jason Wilde joins Jim and Matt following the Packers' 34-31 loss to the Lions on Thursday Night Football. Jim asks Jason about Dan Campbell's bold 4th-down decisions that paid off for his team, and how does Detroit's very solid identity compare to Green Bay's identity with Matt LaFleur. Matt also explains to Jason why he's got issues with LaFleur's play-calling and the offense's track record of slow starts, and Jason explains why Matt isn't a TOTAL idiot. But, what's up with Jaden Reed only getting one target in the game, and are the Packers' handicapping or helping the offense when they dedicate to running the ball with Josh Jacobs? Primetime also tries desperately to get Jim and Matt to respect Jason's time to no avail. Jim and Matt wrap up with their Green & Gold Blind Rankings for the Packers vs Lions game, as Primetime asks the guys to blind rank the three biggest architects of this Packers team/roster.