The show digs into a tough question: what do the Packers do at an elite level right now? The answers are uncomfortable, with safety being the only clear group and even that feeling underwhelming. The discussion shifts to Jordan Love as the path to elite status, but concerns about offensive line and consistency remain. Brian Bulaga joins and reinforces the lack of true elite units, while highlighting Tucker Kraft and safety as the closest. The takeaway is clear: this team is good, but still searching for greatness.