In a world where political disagreement can feel like living in completely different realities, curiosity is becoming a lost skill.

What happens when we stop trying to win conversations and start trying to understand them? Drawing on Cole’s “News Swap” experiment with his conservative brother, Nyla and Cole unpack how algorithms, outrage, and purity tests are quietly eroding our ability to stay connected across difference.

The challenge: learning how to disagree without shaming, withdrawing, or losing our humanity — in dating, families, friendships, and anywhere intimacy meets conflict.

A conversation about curiosity, containment, and what it really takes to stay in relationship when you don’t agree.

Listen to all three "News Swap" conversations between Cole and his brother here:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/news-swap/id1834581051

https://open.spotify.com/show/6ncfiIkr2gjyzJkbkhtU9N?si=50ae53731d3a4cc9