It’s a sad day on the pod, as we say goodbye to two Bachelor Nation greats this episode: Gary and Charles L. And while we love them and so many men on this cast, we also have to talk about the recent scandal surrounding Guy and the protective order brought against him by his ex-wife. We also offer our thoughts on Jordan, Mark’s close-talking habit, and who we think is poised to win it all.

Then, it’s time to talk about Love is Blind DC, which is finally starting to get interesting. Are Garrett and Taylor the most perfect couple we’ve ever seen on this show? What is actually going on with Ramses, and is he as liberal as he thinks he is? Why are Alex and Tim still together (and also why is Alex’s dad so wonderful)? Will Ashley work past Tyler’s lies? How has Nick not learned how to boil water in 28 years on this planet? Is anyone actually surprised at Steven’s gross behavior? We answer all these questions and more!

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