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50. Screw the Plan B Mentality: Actor David Millstone on Pivoting, Producing, and Finding Your Self-States


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What happens when everything falls apart and you finally commit to the thing you've been running from? In this episode, I sit down with David Millstone—actor, producer, and co-host of the Every Day Courage podcast—to talk about coming to acting at 42 after major life shifts, building a career on your own terms, and why the creative journey is never, ever done.


If you've ever felt like you started too late, pivoted too many times, or worried that exploring multiple creative identities means you're not "serious" enough—this conversation is for you. We're talking about the long game, learning from every version of yourself, and why your job as an artist is to keep naming new mysteries.


TIMESTAMPS:

[00:00] - Intro: Meet David Millstone—actor, producer, creative explorer

[01:00] - From theater kid to newspaper editor: The early pivot away from acting

[03:00] - The life change that catapulted him back to acting at 42

[04:00] - "What doesn't kill you makes you stranger"—rebuilding confidence

[06:00] - Acting as exploration of self-states vs. catharsis

[07:00] - The Body Keeps the Score and relational cycle analysis

[08:00] - Why acting should be a conversation, not a monologue

[15:00] - The pivot to producing: When acting alone wasn't enough

[25:00] - What David learns from younger actors about the business

[40:00] - Breaking free from the "actor as victim" mentality

[45:00] - Building your career with agency and intention

[57:00] - The "no plan B" myth and why it's bulls**t

[1:00:00] - Where to find David + Season 2 of Every Day Courage


RESOURCES

· Get Messy: Authenticity and Transformation: Sasha Feldman’s Journey from Actor to Therapist

· Get Messy: Building Confidence through Creativity with Michelle Simone Miller

· Get Messy: Walking the Bridge of Life: Presence, Change, and Identity

·The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk M.D.


Connect with David

Podcast: Every Day Courage with David Millstone and Stephan Dweck

Website: davidmillstone.com

Instagram: @davidmillstone


✨Connect with Maddie✨

Explore Maddie’s Website | @messywithmaddie


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Get Messy with MaddieBy Maddie McGuire