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In this soul-stirring episode, Ro & J dive into the subtle yet powerful topic of “Liberation from Labels.” With their characteristic depth and humor, they explore how language, identity, thoughts, and even spirituality are often wrapped in labels that confine rather than free us. Through rich reflections, mystical references, and direct pointers to pure awareness, they invite listeners to go beyond the mental constructs and “rest as the Heart Essence.”
The episode unpacks how labels act as concessions—temporary tools used on the path of awakening, but not to be clung to. Using quotes from Ramana Maharshi, the Ashtavakra Gita, and reflections from Lauri Poldre, the conversation emphasizes direct realization of one's true nature—a presence untouched by roles, thoughts, or changing identities.
Listeners are reminded that freedom is not attained by changing or upgrading one’s labels, but by realizing that they were never needed in the first place. The episode ends with an invitation to the SD community’s monthly Dharma Talks and the ongoing support available for those walking the path of self-realization.
Timestamps:
(13:01) The “I Am” - is it a label?
(24:15) How do presence, synchronicity and awareness relate to Being?
(37:05) The artifact of memory and how labels skew it
(45:53) Dharma - the benefit and power of existing within it
(55:35) What is it we all ultimately seek?
(1:06:33) How Dharma Breaks the cycle of labels with relatable examples
(1:19:01) The ultimate method for letting go of all labels
SPECIAL THANKS to the SACRED CREW: Karen Stewart, Marina Aleman, Ilana Bielak, Jaime Fidel, Gibran Fitch and Aaron Cruz.
Please send us an email ([email protected]) should you want to sign up for the following Dharma Talk.
LINKS:
Website: https://www.sacredynamics.com/
Insta: https://www.instagram.com/sacredynamics/
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
By J Smith and Ro Vargas5
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In this soul-stirring episode, Ro & J dive into the subtle yet powerful topic of “Liberation from Labels.” With their characteristic depth and humor, they explore how language, identity, thoughts, and even spirituality are often wrapped in labels that confine rather than free us. Through rich reflections, mystical references, and direct pointers to pure awareness, they invite listeners to go beyond the mental constructs and “rest as the Heart Essence.”
The episode unpacks how labels act as concessions—temporary tools used on the path of awakening, but not to be clung to. Using quotes from Ramana Maharshi, the Ashtavakra Gita, and reflections from Lauri Poldre, the conversation emphasizes direct realization of one's true nature—a presence untouched by roles, thoughts, or changing identities.
Listeners are reminded that freedom is not attained by changing or upgrading one’s labels, but by realizing that they were never needed in the first place. The episode ends with an invitation to the SD community’s monthly Dharma Talks and the ongoing support available for those walking the path of self-realization.
Timestamps:
(13:01) The “I Am” - is it a label?
(24:15) How do presence, synchronicity and awareness relate to Being?
(37:05) The artifact of memory and how labels skew it
(45:53) Dharma - the benefit and power of existing within it
(55:35) What is it we all ultimately seek?
(1:06:33) How Dharma Breaks the cycle of labels with relatable examples
(1:19:01) The ultimate method for letting go of all labels
SPECIAL THANKS to the SACRED CREW: Karen Stewart, Marina Aleman, Ilana Bielak, Jaime Fidel, Gibran Fitch and Aaron Cruz.
Please send us an email ([email protected]) should you want to sign up for the following Dharma Talk.
LINKS:
Website: https://www.sacredynamics.com/
Insta: https://www.instagram.com/sacredynamics/
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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