This week James and Timmy talk with Michael Irwin, who spent time in prison for drug trafficking before gaining a degree and masters in criminology.

Michael talks about growing up in Belfast, the son of an RUC officer, getting involved in drug trafficking in South Africa and finding his way out of the madness through education.

"Being a police mans son wasn't the best predicament growing up. Nobody liked ya."

You can connect with Michael on Twitter @MicsIrwin

You can also watch the podcast HERE