Rich and Josh discuss describing yourself, dancing to “Hitchhiker,” getting on the blower, ditching the band, Life After Youth, not connecting in a while, being put in a room with a guitar, sounding stony, little broken voices, Nebraska, thinking you’re playing great, situational anxiety, alcoholism and bands, everything is a balance, being affected by the weather, not being China, snowbirds, standing everywhere, motorcycle touring, being out of character, something haunting, getting everything set up, the passing of time, peeking behind the curtain, a robot in the house, Kazoodoo, Yoda getting a girlfriend, framing well, an opposite conversation, patting yourself on the back, break-ins, and Neil Young's Hitchhiker.

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