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Renaissance men Ben and Mark visit Italy via the middle of the road through Croatia and Wales as they discuss The Vampires of Venice and The Masque of Mandragora. Under discussion: Authentic Italian flavour. Vampires. Throat cutting. The Doctor's inability to understand simple human relationships. Some mildly inappropriate giggling at a very particular date.But the big question is, did Robert Holmes and Philip Hinchcliffe ruin Doctor Who?

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