Oh wow, this is going to be a tough one. There is so much to dislike about Taylor Swift. She represents blonde mean girls everywhere, right? RIGHT? She's definitely stuck-up. Isn't she? Wait. Do we even know anything about this woman? Cass Bugge does.

Cass Bugge is a wonderful actress who can be seen on The Brink and Kelly's favorite show ever: Transparent. She also co-hosts one of the best live shows in LA: American Town Hall. Please go and see this if you're ever in the area!

We’ve started taking little iPhone photos of our guests while they hold an unlit cigarette in their sunglasses and posting them with the ‘sodes on Headgum.com, so go look at ’em. I think it's important that you see how cute our guests are, physically.

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