This episode explains how 4 PETE professor navigate race discourse in PETE classes and how to address issues of social justice and race when all of us identify as White. Jen Walton-Fisette (@JWalton_Fisette) who has presented and published extensively on issues of social justice and how it is being taught in PETE programs sits down with me (@ristomarttinen), Kevin Richards (@KARRichards14) and Erin Centeio (@ecenteio) to share some thoughts and open up a dialogue.