We tackle our first documentary this week with guest Elizabeth MacDuffie and her pick: Grey Gardens. Among other things, we discuss the crazy antics of the Beales, the Documentary Now! parody "Sandy Passage," the objectivity of documentaries, the birth of direct cinema, and more!

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Elizabeth MacDuffie is the creator of Meat for Tea and the Meat for Teacast. 

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