In this episode of the TomorrowZone® Catalyst Podcast, host Deb Reuben connects with Eileen Grimes, EVP of Growth and Learning at the Human Leadership Institute, for a deep dive into the intersection of human systems, AI, and transformational leadership. With roots in mathematics and tech, Eileen shares her powerful journey from formulas to facilitating future-ready organizations through relational leadership. You’ll learn why understanding human systems is just as crucial as understanding technical ones. If you can troubleshoot a server crash, you can troubleshoot a trust breakdown. You just need to look for different signals. This episode challenges how we define success, explores the surprising power of slowing down, and demonstrates why making space for trust and creativity isn’t just nice to have, it’s foundational for innovation. Whether you're navigating AI disruption or rethinking how to lead in complex times, this conversation offers bold new ways to think about what it means to lead into the future with purpose, presence, and possibility.   Eileen Grimes is a catalyst for transformational leadership, known for bridging analytical rigor with deeply human insight. As EVP of Growth and Learning at the Human Leadership Institute, she empowers organizations to design future-ready cultures by integrating systems thinking, relational intelligence, and human-centered strategy. With a career that began in math education and evolved through Six Sigma-certified roles in tech, Eileen brings a unique ability to connect technical complexity with emotional and experiential leadership development.   She co-founded a women’s leadership initiative that continues to thrive over a decade later and has earned global recognition. Through her work, whether designing learning experiences, leading executive workshops, or innovating leadership development tools, Eileen helps leaders navigate ambiguity with grounded presence and radical hope. Her work is further enriched by her expertise in somatic coaching and psychedelic integration facilitation, offering multidimensional support to leaders shaping meaningful futures.   Connect with Us: Eileen Grimes | LinkedIn Human Leadership Institute Deborah Reuben | LinkedIn TomorrowZone