What if saving the planet started with understanding the human mind?

In this episode, Gabby chats with Dr Andrea Marais-Potgieter, a conservation psychologist whose work explores how our thoughts, fears, and values shape the way we treat the natural world. 

From Western Leopard Toads in Cape Town to community projects across the globe, Andrea reveals why real conservation begins within - and how hope, empathy, and imagination can change everything. Together, they unpack the psychology of conservation, talk about the emotional side of climate change, and explore what it truly means to “accompany” another species.

This conversation invites you to pause, reflect, and ask: What kind of relationship do I want with nature?

Visit the YWP website here: https://www.ywpofsa.co.za/

Visit Dr Marais-Potgieter's website here: https://conservationpsychology.co.za/

Visit the Wild Eye website here: https://wild-eye.com/