As the cost of living crisis impacts more and more people, and energy security becomes something far more widely discussed than it was 10 years ago, here is a vital conversation with two leading pioneers of the notion of community energy. Community energy is a movement that is spreading in spite of, rather than because of, government actions, but its potential is huge. What if by 2030 it was the norm? What might it unlock beyond simply kilowatt hours?

I'm joined by Leila Fortunato and Agamemnon Otero to explore this, and you are in for such a treat... thanks as always for listening, and do let me know your thoughts on this episode.

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