Some women are with you until the very last page of the story. Brenda is one of them.

In this week’s episode, Alyse and I sit down with Brenda, who knew “Betty” since 2016 and stayed close through two major retreats—including the last one in Croatia.

Her reflections are grounded, insightful, and offer a rare perspective on what it means to stay, witness, and ultimately walk away with clarity.

This isn’t a dramatic tell-all.

It’s a steady, clear conversation about what happens when truth begins to override loyalty.

In this episode:

• Why staying ‘too long’ is often part of the process

• The subtle distortion of gaslighting over time

• How Brenda found her way out—not in a blaze, but with quiet strength

• What it really looks like to reclaim clarity after spiritual confusion

• Why women like Brenda matter to the narrative

✨ Also inside:

• The difference between devotion and entanglement

• The moment the spell breaks—and what comes next

• A few solid nods to our Friends fandom (could we be any more obvious?)

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🎸 Missed the Phoebe moment?
Yes, I finally released the guitar video. Phoebe Buffay hair, guitar, a little sass, and a lot of heart. Watch here.

⚡️PS: There’s only one more episode before the season finale.
So if you’ve been riding the Thursday wave with us—don’t miss this one.

Same time, same spell-breaking vibe.

We’ll see you next week.