Jim Rutledge and Matt Hamilton roll into Hour 2 of today's show reacting to some more breaking news for Badgers football, as wide receivers Will Pauling and C.J. Williams both entered the transfer portal this afternoon. They continue discussing whether the transfer portal or NIL is a bigger issue in today's College Football landscape and is it possible at all to separate the two? Has NIL become a boogeyman creation of a system that just doesn't want to make its athletes employees. They also get into tonight's Bucks game against the Thunder in the NBA Cup title game, discussing which anti-perspirant Khris Middleton can use to help his flop sweat. Jim and Matt are joined by Badgers legend and new HBCU national champion Chris Orr! Chris talks about winning the national championship as the linebackers coach at Jackson State this past weekend, his journey from training in the UFL to taking the job at Jackson State and how his connection to former Badgers DC Dave Aranda led him there. Matt can't help but ask Chris for his thoughts (from afar) on last season's Badgers team and what their biggest issue was. They also discuss the breaking news that Will Pauling and C.J. Williams are leaving the program, and Chris answer the question about whether more restrictions are needed for NIL or the portal? Chris wraps up naming some of his biggest influences as coaches and his dream job of one day coaching with his brothers! Jim and Matt review Dan Campbell's HOT morning radio comments about how the Lions will bounce back after likely three of his key players sustained season-ending injuries, and they talk about where Dan Campbell probably gets his morning cup of joe. Throwing Stones includes a shot at the not-so-affordable dollar menu at McDonald's!