In today's episode, Nick Warnes & Karen Rohrer have a dialogue with Michaela O'Donnell. Michaela O'Donnell, PhD is the Executive Director of the Max De Pree Center for Leadership at Fuller Seminary. She is the author of Make Work Matter: Your Guide to Meaningful Work in a Changing World. Additionally, Michaela is the owner of Long Winter Media, a creative agency she founded with her husband Dan.

To find out more about Michaela O'Donnell you can visit @michaela.odonnell, michaelaodonnell.com, and degree.org/make-work-matter. Here are some quotes from today's interview: 

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