So this is part of a conversation I had with Kathryn, about a week ago. And at first, I was super critical of all the ways in which it was really — well, not that perfect. That audio is not so great (although I did what I could to make it better). But then, when I listened back to it, I realized it was the kind of thing _I_ would really want to hear, as a creator. And therefore, I realized it might just be the kind of thing you> would want to hear, as a creator.

At the beginning it jumps around a bit. Kathryn begins by talking about the Spotlight Your Brilliance workshops she's been doing on her own brand, and bringing them into our company. And at one point she mentions one of our possible clients, and I edited her name out, to sort of, protect that person's privacy.

But, we are really getting to something here, is what I keep feeling — and I feel that it's very exciting. I share some of my own insights about the ego, and how the ego part of us, really doesn't want to be seen as too special, or ready, or anything. Because we can feel just as vulnerable to be seen then, as anything else, and that can be scary too. So, this was a bit of a revelation to me.

I hope you enjoy it.