"Oh god, are we going meta already?" - You. 

Only a little. Don't worry. 

Today on TLP, we talk about podcasts, and creativity, and the struggle to feel as though your art is worthwhile and has a place that makes sense in the context of history. Kinda heavy, right? There are jokes and stuff, too. But I have no illusions about the audience of this podcast. You are mostly creative people, and you understand creative struggles, and I hope that some of this is not only helpful to you but also can be maybe part of a longer conversation, facilitated by this podcast, as we proceed and go further and further up our own butts.

A person with whom I have vented about creative struggles for years is the talented and generous Jonathon Pernisek, and he is our guest for the majority of today's episode. I have a lot more stuff recorded with him, and probably will want to talk to him again soon anyway, so expect to hear more from him. And if you live in Chicago, go to his live show this Saturday! Tell him old Zacky sent you!

I'm writing a lot for someone who only has one good eye right now, so I'll say goodbye for now. XOXO. 

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