Jaycee has officially fallen headfirst into the Swiftie universe, and we’re unpacking all the lore. Who we love, who we love to hate, why everyone is fighting, and—most importantly—who knew there was such a significance with pens.

Then we spiral into a very important conversation about restaurants we genuinely don’t understand how they’re still in business (cough Swiss Chalet cough). No shade. Just… questions.

And finally, we’re emotionally preparing for the albums that are about to have us down bad crying in the gym. Are we ready? No. Are we going to survive? Also no. But we will be listening anyway.

PLUS — stay tuned next week because we somehow forgot to tell you about the absolute chihuahua chaos from Mexico, and honestly… that’s on us.