Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist

62. The Helper’s Marriage: 18 Years of Learning to Love Without Burning Out


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Marriage after 18 years isn’t just anniversaries and celebrations—it’s the messy, quiet, everyday reality of living with someone who, like you, is a helper. In this episode, I explore what it’s like when both partners are therapists, healers, or helpers: juggling nervous systems, energy, and emotional labor while trying to stay connected. We’ll talk about the magic in the mundane, the tension beneath the surface, and how showing up fully—messy, human, and embodied—creates lasting connection, growth, and intimacy.

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Between a Hot Mess & a TherapistBy Shawna Lovin, MA, LPCS