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62 - When Marriage Shatters: Hope, Healing, and Honest Theology with Lysa TerKeurst and Dr. Joel Muddamalle


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What do you do when your life shatters in a way you never saw coming?

In today’s powerful episode of No Longer Nomads, host Josh Doyle sits down with bestselling author Lysa TerKeurst and biblical scholar Dr. Joel Muddamalle to talk honestly about pain, divorce, theology, healing, and the God who walks with us through it all.

Lysa opens up about her deeply personal journey that inspired her new book, Surviving an Unwanted Divorce, and the years of heartbreak, counseling, and rebuilding that followed. Dr. Joel brings rich biblical context—breaking down passages like Matthew 19—and helps us understand what Scripture really says about marriage, divorce, dignity, and the heart of God toward His hurting children.

Whether you’re navigating your own divorce, supporting someone who is, or simply facing a season of pain, this conversation offers hope, clarity, and truth.

You were never meant to wander alone.

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  • Surviving an Unwanted Divorce by Lysa TerKeurst
  • Find it wherever books are sold or at https://Proverbs31.org

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Chapters:

00:00 – The Pain No One Expects: Lysa’s Opening Words

00:26 – What No Longer Nomads Is All About

01:01 – Introducing Lysa TerKeurst & Dr. Joel Muddamalle

01:23 – Why Lysa Wrote Surviving an Unwanted Divorce

03:09 – “I Never Thought Divorce Would Be My Story”

04:12 – The Two People Who Helped Her Survive

05:17 – Early Reactions to the Book

06:13 – Meet Dr. Joel: From Bible Nerd to Theology Leader

07:52 – When Theology Meets Real Life Pain

09:11 – Parenting, Emotions, and the Pressures of Marriage

09:58 – Matthew 19 Explained: What Jesus Was Really Saying

11:50 – The Cultural Context Behind Divorce Laws

14:08 – Why Jesus Elevated the Dignity of Women

15:19 – Romans 8: How God Brings Good from Suffering

16:03 – Joseph’s Story, Your Story: “But God…”

17:12 – Redemption Isn’t Always Reconciliation

18:30 – Is Marriage Becoming an Idol? Hard Truths

19:47 – Healing Before Dating: Why It Matters

20:33 – How Dysfunction Can Feel Like “Normal”

21:52 – When Marriage Is Elevated Above the Image Bearer

23:10 – Avoiding Counterfeits While You Heal

24:49 – Learning to Sit With Your Own Thoughts

25:59 – The Most Important Word in the Bible: THROUGH

27:09 – You Are Not Beyond Repair

27:32 – Why You May Never Get the Closure You Want

28:50 – Lysa’s Word to Listeners: “What Happened to You Was Wrong.”

29:28 – Where to Find Lysa & Dr. Joel

30:02 – Closing Thoughts & Next Week’s Episode


#SurvivingAnUnwantedDivorce #LysaTerKeurst #FaithThroughPain #TherapyAndTheology

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