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Lee and Simon talk about Conrad the seagull and (unrelated) how ambitions seem to change in mid-life.

Get in touch with Lee and Simon at [email protected].

Related links (and necessary corrections):

• Marie Kondo sparking joy: https://konmari.com/marie-kondo-rules-of-tidying-sparks-joy/
• Bad Batch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Bad_Batch
• Seagull development: https://animalwhoop.com/about-seagulls-and-seagull-babies/
• Seoul Olympics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Summer_Olympics
• whakapapa: https://teara.govt.nz/en/whakapapa-genealogy

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The Midlifing logo is adapted from an original image by H.L.I.T: https://www.flickr.com/photos/29311691@N05/8571921679 (CC BY 2.0)

Get in touch with Lee and Simon at [email protected].

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The Midlifing logo is adapted from an original image by H.L.I.T: https://www.flickr.com/photos/29311691@N05/8571921679 (CC BY 2.0)