The Art of We

64. Getting Real With Jayson Gaddis + Ellen Boeder


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In episode 64 of "The Art of We" podcast, hosts Dr. Will Van Derveer and Krista Van Derveer explore the intricate dynamics of conscious adult partnership with their dear friends and relationship experts Jayson Gaddis and Ellen Boeder. This deeply personal episode is a dialogue about viewing relationships as a growth path and the nuanced complexities of practicing secure functioning together.

The discussion highlights the balance of individual needs within family dynamics, particularly the prioritization of partnership in the midst of parenting challenges. You’ll hear personal experiences and strategies in maintaining a healthy relationship and effective collaboration, both in parenting roles and in professional endeavors. 

This episode also touches upon the concept of relational development as a spiritual path, offering a perspective on personal growth and the importance of mutual support in relationships. They explore the consequences of developmental gaps experienced during adolescence and how they can affect adult intimate relationships, with the guests sharing personal insights and emphasizing the significance of addressing relational trauma.

Main Topics Covered:

  • Unique insights into adult development stages and how gaps in these stages can impact intimate relationship
  • The significance of relational health and how it impacts every area of our lives
  • The art of parenting and collaboration in relationships with real-life examples
  • The balance of individual needs and partnership dynamics in a family setting
  • Codependency vs Interdependency
  • The role of relational development in personal growth and spiritual paths

Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, or on your favorite podcast platform. 

Resources Mentioned: 

  • Jayson Gaddis - The Relationship School Website
  • Ellen Boeder Website
  • Jayson Gaddis Instagram
  • Ellen Boeder Instagram
  • Getting To Zero – By Jayson Gaddis
  • Jayson Gaddis YouTube
  • Stan Tatkin, PACT Model
  • Dr. Ellyn Bader

Get in Touch: 

  • The Art Of We - Our Top 10 Relationship Agreements 
  • The Art Of We Website
  • The Art of We Instagram 
  • Integrative Psychiatry Institute: Integrative Mental Wellness & Psychedelic Therapy Training

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