In this episode of the TomorrowZone Catalyst Podcast, host Deb Reuben chats with futurist Jonathan Brill, a leading authority on anticipating and designing for exponential change. Jonathan invites leaders to look beyond fears of being replaced and instead reimagine new ways humans and AI can collaborate. He explains that the real competitive risk isn't AI itself, but how others will harness it to reshape the playing field. Through vivid metaphors and real-world examples, Jonathan reveals how organizations can evolve from rigid, top-down structures to fluid, distributed models that mirror the intelligence of an octopus. If you're ready to shift your leadership mindset, adapt to exponential shifts, and build a future where technology amplifies human potential, this conversation will spark new ways of thinking. Jonathan Brill is the world's #1 ranked futurist (Forbes) and a trusted advisor to global innovators. As HP's former Global Futurist and an inventor behind 325+ products generating $27 billion, he equips leaders to spot, prioritize, and invent what happens next. His acclaimed book Rogue Waves offers a practical framework to thrive amid disruption. Jonathan draws on decades of cross-industry experience, helping organizations move beyond short-term reactions to design meaningful, future-ready action. With an eye on technological, social, and geopolitical change, he empowers transformational leaders to win the next five years and beyond. Connect with Us: Jonathan Brill | LinkedIn Center for Radical Change Deborah Reuben | LinkedIn TomorrowZone