Christianity in America is on the decline. Or is it? Even as fewer American adults claim to practice the Christian faith, Bible sales are up by 41% in the last 3 years, and downloads of spiritual apps are up by 79%.

So is Christianity in America growing? Or shrinking?

One thing’s for sure— the landscape of the church in America certainly is changing.

So on today’s episode, we’re talking about the church—where it’s clearly changing, where the data is surprising, and where it’s honestly a little unsettling. Some of these trends feel encouraging, some raise real questions, and none of them let us stay on autopilot.

So while we can’t predict the future or we don’t want to chase fads, it is helpful to pay attention, ask better questions, and think faithfully about what it means to lead and follow Jesus in this moment.