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#7 DoK community: Conway’s Law & Kubernetes: Centralization vs. small team autonomy // Joseph Sandoval & Mike Tougeron
Data on Kubernetes #7: Conway’s Law & Kubernetes - Centralization vs small team autonomy with Mike Tougeron, Lead Site Reliability Engineer, at Adobe & Joseph Sandoval , SRE Manager, Platform Infrastructure, at Adobe.
Loosely coupled teams, loosely coupled workloads and loosely coupled data - on a built for everyone platform?
Abstract:
Big clusters or small clusters? Where to draw the line and how to know whats best for your use case? We speak with Joseph and Mike from Adobe about the inevitable questions that arise when running k8s at scale.
If it is run by the platform team, is it inevitably a pet? Or more of a pet? Is that the idea, that we give stuff that ” must not fail” to platform teams so they are common services w/ SLAs? Or how is it decided what is owned by the platform vs. the individual teams.
While talking with Joseph and Mike we also dive into what their stack looks like, must have tools they use on a daily bases, VM vs K8s, differences in stateful apps on k8s and War stories!
Mike T Bio:
For many years Mike has been building Kubernetes platforms and deployments. With a passion for automation and developer engagement, Mike works towards continuously improving development pipelines to take the complication out of managing services on large-scale infrastructure backed by both vm and containers across multi-cloud environments. Mike is a lazy programmer who would rather write thousands of lines of code for automation instead of running repetitive commands every day. When not coding or playing with his son you’ll find Mike with his nose buried in a book or playing Civilization.
Joseph Sandoval Bio:
Joseph has been in the tech industry for 25 years running large scale infrastructure primarily in the E-commerce/SaaS. The last 15 years has been spent in leading and a managing role with the high performing. His philosophy is to create space for SRE’s to do their best work and espousing a product centric point of view when it comes to backend infrastructure and tooling.
Currently managing a team responsible for over 200k cores of infrastructure (bare metal, vm’s and containers) in 6 datacenters and 3 AWS regions.
▬▬▬▬▬▬ Connect with us 👋 ▬▬▬▬▬▬
Join our slack:
https://join.slack.com/t/dokcommunity/shared_invite/zt-g3ui5r0g-jDKz5dhh2W1ayElqwKYYAg
Follow us on Twitter: @dokcommunity
Connect with Demetrios on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dpbrinkm/
Follow Mike on Twitter:
@mtougeron
Connect with Mike on Linkedin:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mtougeron/
▬▬▬▬▬▬ Supporters of the DoKc ▬▬▬▬▬▬
This meetup is sponsored by MayaData, which helped start the DOK.community and remains an active supporter. MayaData sponsors two Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF) projects, OpenEBS (http://www.openEBS.io) - the leading open-source container attached storage solution - and Litmus (https://litmuschaos.io/) - the leading Kubernetes native chaos engineering project, which was recently donated to the CNCF as a Sandbox project. As of August 2020, MayaData is the fifth-largest contributor to CNCF projects. Well-known users of MayaData software include the CNCF itself, Bloomberg, Comcast, Arista, Orange, Intuit, and others. Check out more info at https://mayadata.io/
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By Data on Kubernetes CommunityData on Kubernetes #7: Conway’s Law & Kubernetes - Centralization vs small team autonomy with Mike Tougeron, Lead Site Reliability Engineer, at Adobe & Joseph Sandoval , SRE Manager, Platform Infrastructure, at Adobe.
Loosely coupled teams, loosely coupled workloads and loosely coupled data - on a built for everyone platform?
Abstract:
Big clusters or small clusters? Where to draw the line and how to know whats best for your use case? We speak with Joseph and Mike from Adobe about the inevitable questions that arise when running k8s at scale.
If it is run by the platform team, is it inevitably a pet? Or more of a pet? Is that the idea, that we give stuff that ” must not fail” to platform teams so they are common services w/ SLAs? Or how is it decided what is owned by the platform vs. the individual teams.
While talking with Joseph and Mike we also dive into what their stack looks like, must have tools they use on a daily bases, VM vs K8s, differences in stateful apps on k8s and War stories!
Mike T Bio:
For many years Mike has been building Kubernetes platforms and deployments. With a passion for automation and developer engagement, Mike works towards continuously improving development pipelines to take the complication out of managing services on large-scale infrastructure backed by both vm and containers across multi-cloud environments. Mike is a lazy programmer who would rather write thousands of lines of code for automation instead of running repetitive commands every day. When not coding or playing with his son you’ll find Mike with his nose buried in a book or playing Civilization.
Joseph Sandoval Bio:
Joseph has been in the tech industry for 25 years running large scale infrastructure primarily in the E-commerce/SaaS. The last 15 years has been spent in leading and a managing role with the high performing. His philosophy is to create space for SRE’s to do their best work and espousing a product centric point of view when it comes to backend infrastructure and tooling.
Currently managing a team responsible for over 200k cores of infrastructure (bare metal, vm’s and containers) in 6 datacenters and 3 AWS regions.
▬▬▬▬▬▬ Connect with us 👋 ▬▬▬▬▬▬
Join our slack:
https://join.slack.com/t/dokcommunity/shared_invite/zt-g3ui5r0g-jDKz5dhh2W1ayElqwKYYAg
Follow us on Twitter: @dokcommunity
Connect with Demetrios on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dpbrinkm/
Follow Mike on Twitter:
@mtougeron
Connect with Mike on Linkedin:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mtougeron/
▬▬▬▬▬▬ Supporters of the DoKc ▬▬▬▬▬▬
This meetup is sponsored by MayaData, which helped start the DOK.community and remains an active supporter. MayaData sponsors two Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF) projects, OpenEBS (http://www.openEBS.io) - the leading open-source container attached storage solution - and Litmus (https://litmuschaos.io/) - the leading Kubernetes native chaos engineering project, which was recently donated to the CNCF as a Sandbox project. As of August 2020, MayaData is the fifth-largest contributor to CNCF projects. Well-known users of MayaData software include the CNCF itself, Bloomberg, Comcast, Arista, Orange, Intuit, and others. Check out more info at https://mayadata.io/
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