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What does it really take to grow and sell a $6M MSP—and still have gas left in the tank? In this episode, Joey Pinz sits down with Jamie Kudla, a seasoned entrepreneur who built his IT firm from scratch, sold it successfully, and now helps others do it smarter through global staffing.

Jamie shares the gritty truth about the early years: long hours, missed family time, burnout, and the moment he said, “There has to be a better way.” That path led him to build Kalutasan, a U.S.-based outsourcing firm connecting MSPs with elite Filipino talent.

Whether you're struggling to hire, overpaying for mediocre techs, or simply want to scale without chaos, Jamie delivers proven strategies rooted in real-world MSP experience.

🎯 Top 3 Highlights:

• 💡 Why traditional hiring is broken—and what works better
• 🌍 How Filipino talent can cut costs and boost service
• 🧭 Personal lessons on leadership, growth, and self-care

From late nights in New York to smooth sailing in Tarrytown, Jamie’s story is packed with insights for MSPs looking to level up.

#MSP #ITLeadership #Outsourcing #Entrepreneurship #BusinessGrowth #GlobalTalent #StaffingSolutions #JoeyPinzPodcast

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