Martin Willis welcomes Kelly Hughes and Sam N. Milodragovich, co-creators of the Frightday and Visitors podcasts, for a fascinating deep dive into UFOs, conspiracies, cryptids, and the enduring legacy of Art Bell’s Midnight in the Desert. Kelly Hughes has been fascinated by the paranormal since childhood—growing up listening to Art Bell with her father. As a longtime voice on the Frightday horror podcast (syndicated on the Dark Matter Digital Network), Kelly’s reporting and interviews led to VISITORS, a 2025 spinoff exploring UFOs, abductions, and the people behind the phenomena. Her warmth and curiosity have made her a standout in the UFO and paranormal community. Sam N. Milodragovich, Frightday co-founder and VISITORS host, brings a deep appreciation for the macabre and a skeptical yet open-minded perspective on the unexplained. With roots in horror, true crime, and high strangeness, Sam has interviewed remarkable figures from science, government, and beyond—unraveling the stories that linger between the known and the unknown. Together, Kelly and Sam bring their signature intelligence, humor, and insight to this conversation—touching on historical UFO cases, media narratives, and why the unexplained still matters today.  SHOW NOTES
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