In Part 2 of When the Coach Gets Coached, Jacob sits down with his coach, Matt Welch, at one of the hardest points of a training cycle right after illness and right before a decision.

What starts as a simple training update turns into a deep and honest conversation about sickness, burnout, motivation, and the emotional weight that comes with chasing big goals. Jacob opens up about feeling deflated, questioning whether he even wants to race, and wrestling with the fear of letting his coach down. Matt brings perspective from the coaching side, reminding Jacob that fitness is not fragile, progress is not wasted, and that setbacks do not erase the work already done.

Together, they unpack fueling mistakes, winter training stress, mental resilience, and the pressure athletes put on themselves to force outcomes before life events like weddings, travel, and major transitions. Kailee joins the conversation to offer grounding perspective, reminding Jacob that this journey has been years in the making and that racing can still be a celebration, not just a result.

This episode is for any athlete who has ever gotten sick at the wrong time, lost motivation mid build, or felt like they failed their coach or themselves. It is a reminder that training is rarely linear, that uncertainty is part of the process, and that sometimes the bravest move is simply keeping the door open.

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