This episode covers sensitive topics including body image, body dissatisfaction, disordered eating, and eating disorders. We share these conversations with care and intention, but please be mindful of where you're at as you listen. You know yourself best. Please note that this podcast is not a substitute for professional advice or treatment, and Jacob and Kailee are not licensed mental health providers. If you or someone you love needs support, resources are linked below.
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In episode 86, Jacob and Kailee sit down with Lisa Radzak, Executive Director of WithAll, a nonprofit dedicated to preventing eating disorders by reaching people early — long before patterns have a chance to take hold.
Lisa opens up about her own journey, from some of her earliest memories being tied to how her body looked, through years of body dissatisfaction and disordered eating, to eventually being diagnosed with bulimia nervosa just before law school. Her path to recovery — and the privilege she recognized in having access to it — is what ultimately led her to dedicate her career to making sure other people, especially kids, don't have to travel that road at all.
The conversation covers a lot of ground, including:
- The difference between body dissatisfaction, disordered eating, and a clinical eating disorder
- Why you can never tell if someone has an eating disorder just by looking at them
- The warning signs every coach, parent, and healthcare provider should know
- How to approach someone you're worried about without shutting them down
- The four simple principles for raising kids with a healthy relationship with food and their bodies
- Why we should never tie food or exercise to appearance — and what to say instead
- What to do if you're concerned about someone and where to find real help
Lisa also shares why the prevention side of this work is so powerful, what it looks like to build awareness at the community level, and why the most impactful thing you can do for a kid might just be letting them move and never commenting on their body at all.
This one is for every parent, coach, athlete, and human who has ever carried an old comment about their body a little longer than they should have — and wants to make sure the next generation doesn't have to.
Resources from today's episode:
- WithAll Website
- FREE What to Say Coaches Certification
Education program for coaches to know how to help with eating disorder prevention, identification of eating disorder warning signs, and what to say/to when concerned.
- Live Brave 5k & 1 mile to benefit WithAll (form a team!)
- Eating Disorder Myths & Warning Signs //What to Do When Concerned//Get Help Now (including NCEED and FindEDHelp resources)
- WithAll’s Recovery Support Program – financial grants to help with housing/groceries while in intensive treatment
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