We're talking football this week with Joe McDonnell, who previously appeared to talk about Batman Returns. This time Joe picked the 1996 football comedy Necessary Roughness. Listen as Joe and Rafe bond over their appreciation of Scott Bakula, rant about Rob Schneider, and Joe tries to get Rafe, who is notoriously not a "sports person," a little more into sports movies.

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Joe McDonnell is part of the Out of Boundz podcast.

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