Alex Schinasi, founder of Hulken, joins Carrie Kerpen to unpack the real entrepreneurial journey behind raising venture capital, pivoting under pressure, selling companies, and building again.

From Ivy to Hulken, Alex shares why billion-dollar valuations do not always mean founder freedom, how pivots create momentum, and what it means to be truly “acquired, not retired.”

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2:22 - Introducing Hulken

4:45 - Company #1: Ivy — The Origin Story

9:58 - Racing to Exit: Finding Product Market Fit

12:21 - The Ivy Exit — From Unlock to Deal

12:45 - How the Acquirer Found Them (LinkedIn!)

16:36 - Why Build Again? The Zero-to-One Mindset

16:45 - Company #2: Clay — Healthcare to EdTech

19:55 - The Clay Exit — Three Term Sheets

24:41 - Hulken Origin Story 

28:18 - VC vs. Bootstrap — How to Choose

29:58 - What's Next for Hulken?