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In today's roundtable episode, Ashley and Erin chat with two women building deeply human solutions for working moms: Kate Tovsen, founder of The Society of Working Moms and Kate Tovsen Media, and Alli Kushner, founder of BeeKyn, a soon-to-launch playdate matching and scheduling platform for modern families.

This honest, wide-ranging discussion explores why loneliness is a shared, but rarely talked about part of motherhood, especially for those balancing careers, businesses, and caregiving. Each guest offers a unique lens into how accessible community, supportive tools, and even digital innovation like asynchronous connection or curated online spaces can create more room for joy, help, and human connection in this messy middle of parenting.

Whether you’re raising toddlers or teens, running a company or running late to pickup, this conversation will help you feel seen, and remind you that building meaningful community is possible, even in a world that feels increasingly noisy and disconnected.

What you’ll learn:

• Why 70% of moms report feeling lonely—and what to do about it
• How motherhood changes your ability to connect (and what community can look like now)
• Why the “right” community for you will change over time
• The difference between joining a community and staying in one
• How tech can support, not replace, real-life connection
• Tips for building your own support network, even in small, siloed ways
• How parenting, business, and identity overlap in real-world community-building
• Why perfection isn’t the point—starting messy is often the key

Connect with Erin:

• Website: https://www.pgishparenting.com
• Instagram: @pgishparenting
• PG ish podcast

Connect with Kate:

• katetovsenmedia.com
• Society of Working Moms

Connect with Alli:

• allikushner.com
• BeeKyn

Connect with Ashley:

Website: https://dovetaildesigns.co

Podcast website: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/

AND/BOTH Community: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/andboth-community

Dovetail® App: https://airtable.com/appn6w6IWipJYIuA3/pagZys7UnECzM46iJ/form

Social:

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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dovetaildesigns.co

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/