Jared Janes and Jason Snyder talk with meditation and dharma teacher Vince Horn about the layers of the self, the ladder of abstraction, metadharma, post-capitalism, and much more!

In this Episode of Both/And

• Buddhist Geeks
• David Chapman on Meaningness
• David Chapman on Development Stages & Robert Kegan
• Integral Theory
• Pragmatic Dharma
• Twitter Q&A
• Vince's Homepage

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