Both of us are thinking about recent episodes of Fresh Air - Chris, an interview with the writer with whom Prince collaborated on his memoir; Liz, a discussion about the cost of rebuilding coastal real estate in the face of climate change. Then we get into another topic we can’t reasonably cover in 20 minutes: our relationships with our parents, now that we’re in our thirties. What do we talk about with them, with and without grandkids in the picture? Does the pressure stop after we meet the usual thirtysomething milestones? How have these relationships evolved since our younger days? Plus, our top five celebrity crushes - lists that were harder to make, and more self-revealing, than we anticipated.

"Prince's Co-Writer Reflects On Posthumous Memoir," Fresh Air, October 28, 2019

"Climate Change & The Cost of Coastal Real Estate," Fresh Air, October 17, 2019

"Going Home With Ocean Vuong," The Atlantic, June 4, 2019

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