This week Oliver interviews Andrew Salzberg, former head of Transportation Policy at Uber, and now a Loeb Fellow at Harvard about his work in radically decarbonising transport. Oliver worked with Andrew at Uber, and he’s been thinking about the intersection between climate, transportation and technology longer than most. It’s a great conversation touching on the challenge ahead and opportunities that abound.

Specifically, they dig into:

- his work at TfL, the World Bank and Uber and then now, focussing on decarbonising transport.

- the challenges and opportunities for decarbonising the transport sector, and where Micromobility might be able to help

- how can these modelling exercises actually get integrated into decision making processes and funded, and who in the US is talking about it.

- The intersection of landuse change, PT, EV’s and Micromobility and others, and how the conversation can be ‘unsiloed’

- Why Andrew doesn’t think that decarbonization is inevitable, but how the renewable energy sector offers instructive examples of how tech can change the conversation.

- The opportunity for ‘policy feedback’ in further accelerating and ratcheting up new technologies to reduce emissions

- how EVTOLS/‘flying cars’ represent an asymmetric risk to overall decarbonisation efforts

Editor note: Andrew’s audio got lost towards the end, so we reverted to the backup. Apologies.