You’re vibing at an art show. Then it hits you: someone else already made the thing you wish you’d made. Suddenly, your joy nose-dives into insecurity. Welcome to the complex emotional soup of envy and jealousy—especially for creatives.

In this first half this two-part series, Emily and Carrie crack open Brené Brown’s definitions, explore how envy often hides under admiration, and share personal stories about classism on airplanes, body image in middle school, and the emotional chaos of someone seeming like a better version of you.

(Spoiler: it’s never actually about them.)

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A Note from Carrie

Hey, Dear Listener—it’s Carrie.

If you’ve ever found yourself nodding along with the show and thought, “I wish I had someone to help me make sense of where I'm at,” well… hi!

I happen to be a certified life coach, and I work with artists just like you who might feel a little stuck, a little swirly, or just want some help finding the next right step. I’m opening up a couple more spots for artists who want support and structure in their creative work, and I would love to help you reach your goals.

To learn more, visit honestlydearlistener.com/coaching.

Don’t worry, Dear Listener—we’ve got this.

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References:

• Atlas of the Heart: Mapping Meaningful Connection and the Language of Human Experience - book by Brené Brown
  

TIMECODES
0:00 - Intro
2:39 - Premium Select
10:16 - Jealousy & Envy
10:47 - Atlas of the Heart
11:46 - Envy definition
12:24 - Comparison definition
13:45 - Jealousy definition
21:17 - What we’re usually envious about
23:19 - What Emily is envious about
28:51 - Envy as Dehumanization