Yah Lah But

#811: Joko Anwar - Exposing What Politicians Won’t Admit By Using Horror


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Joko Anwar, one of Indonesia’s hottest filmmakers and director of the critically-acclaimed film “Ghost in the Cell” which has been sold to 86 countries, on sneaking into cinemas as a broke kid in Medan, becoming a journalist to trick filmmakers into talking to him, and why Singaporean films can be successful around the world.

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(00:00) We're Hiring!
(01:33) Intro
(02:48) HOOQ flashback: when Joko judged "She's a Terrorist"
(05:00) Watching Joko's 12th film and feeling the energy on set
(06:00) Why he never says "action" or "cut"
(07:42) Discipline from celluloid days carried into digital filmmaking
(10:08) Working with new actors and building comedic timing
(14:40) The video board: pre-planning every shot before filming
(16:05) Shooting a film in just 5-6 hours a day
(20:20) One-on-one character sessions with no script
(22:14) Growing up in Medan and escaping reality through cinema
(24:25) From wanting to be an actor to becoming a journalist
(26:37) The film review that changed everything
(27:40) Meeting Nia Dinata and getting his first film made
(28:48) Why Joko refuses to be boxed into one genre
(29:49) Starting from personal anxiety: the real source of his stories
(32:00) Filmmaking as communication
(34:17) Pushing the perimeter without breaking it
(35:47) Why specificity travels: Parasite, Crazy Rich Asians and universal themes
(39:55) Why he won't move to Hollywood
(41:40) Indonesia's 47 ghosts and Southeast Asian horror
(42:31) Making jokes about religion respectfully
(43:19) Handling backlash and 1 million opinions
(45:15) Casting people who share your vision, not just want money
(48:27) His "fucked up" childhood and drawing from personal experience
(50:12) Indonesia's superstition and 500 ethnic groups of scary stories
(53:17) The most satisfying part: when audiences relate
(54:27) Practical effects, illustrators and no AI
(56:26) Looking back: gratitude and humility in art
(58:42) The lowest and highest points: there is no high or low
(59:54) The Indonesian horror wave and genre cinema's global rise
(1:04:13) Advice for young Southeast Asian filmmakers: find your voice
(1:05:46) One Shiok Thing
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