🚨 “It’ll never happen here.”
That mindset could cost lives. In this powerful episode, active-shooter prevention expert Chris Grollnek joins hosts Jason Perez and Wesley Long to break down what real readiness looks like—far beyond “run, hide, fight.” Chris shares how his on-duty experience changed his life and how schools, businesses, and families can prepare for the unthinkable without fear-mongering.

💡 In this episode:
✅ Why hiding is not a survival strategy
✅ What a survivable plan looks like for schools & staff
✅ The real timeline: police response vs. medical care
✅ Why bleeding-control skills save more lives than heroics
✅ How media & movies distort public expectations
✅ Free child-friendly guides for hard conversations 🎓 Guest:

Chris Grollnek – Founder of the Active Shooter Prevention Project (ASPP), retired Marine & law-enforcement officer, and national threat-management consultant.
🌐 Website: activeshooterpreventionproject.com

🧩 Next Episode (Part 2): Chris shares his PRO Model and actionable prevention steps for every organization.

⏱️ Chapters 00:00 – 🚨 Cold Open: “It’ll Never Happen Here”
00:24 – 🎧 Title Sequence | DisasterClass Podcast Intro
00:35 – 🙌 Hosts Introduction: Jason & Wesley
00:53 – ⚖️ The Weight of the Topic
01:12 – 👮 Meet Chris Grollnek – Active Shooter Expert
02:45 – 🎖️ Chris’s Journey from Marine to Law Enforcement
03:35 – 💥 The Day Everything Changed
05:00 – 🎙️ Why Chris Rarely Speaks Out
06:40 – 🧩 Preparedness vs. Perception
07:30 – 🕐 Start Today: “Nothing Will Ever Be Perfect”
08:50 – 🏫 Defining Preparedness for Schools
10:20 – 📖 Redefining ‘Active Shooter’
12:45 – 🎓 Training the Right Way
13:30 – 👶 Free Children’s Resource Guide
15:00 – 🚫 Run, Hide, Fight? Not Always.
16:00 – 🧍‍♂️ Who Are the Real First Responders?
18:20 – 💡 Fear Sells, But Fear Doesn’t Solve
19:00 – 🎬 Media & Movie Influence on Public Perception
21:30 – ⏳ The Real Response Timeline
23:20 – 🩸 Bleeding Control Saves Lives
27:00 – ❤️ Shift from Heroics to Help
29:40 – 🛑 Stop the Bleed & Realistic Readiness
30:10 – 🎲 Sponsor Break: EM Disaster Gaming – Wildfire Mayhem
30:33 – 🔁 Reflection & Takeaways
31:00 – 🧠 Next Episode Teaser: The PRO Model
31:15 – 🎓 Outro | Stay Prepared. Stay Educated. Stay Equipped.

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