It's been a long 9 years in the process. Emily is in the final steps on the path to ordination within the United Methodist Church and wanted to reflect on the journey. We talk about the preparation required of ordinans, the difference between high church and low church settings, and why this process could serve to better weed out abusers and opportunists from pursuing church leadership.

GUEST SPOT HIGHLIGHT! Stephen went on The Worship Review - Stephen from Ravel and Know Normal People to discuss being a worship leader and music in the church!

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• I Do Not Permit A Woman to Teach Ravel Episode

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