Getting outdoors during this pandemic has been stressful. Which it is not supposed to be. Where are the lines we don’t want to cross? The lines between keeping yourself and the public safe and enjoying your outdoor activities. Should you see friends outside? What about traveling to your favorite lake or hiking trail? The Alberta Conservation Association weighs in on how we can all be safe and still enjoy the outdoors. Then we speak to Ellen Macdonald from the University of Alberta about how post-secondary has been affected? How do you keep students engaged? Test them? Do research? Most importantly, keep their education coming and not hold back the careers of our future environmental leaders.