Landfill explosions, lithium-ion firestorms, and CIA briefings—today’s guest has seen it all - or so she thought!

Kathleen McCaffery’s illustrious firefighting career includes crawling through rubble in Haiti, leading battalions as one of the first female fire chiefs in North America, and even rewriting Tesla’s global fire safety strategy. This episode takes us into uncharted territory as Tesla recruits a retired firefighter to address global concerns over battery [fire] safety.

Most solar companies are woefully underprepared to interact with firefighting agencies, and that’s increasingly going to create friction and unnecessary limitations.  Kathleen spent her entire career breaking down barriers (when she wasn’t breaking down doors!) and has even been in the situation room of more than a few CIA operation briefs! To say she is battle-tested is putting it mildly. She answered the call to serve the country (CIA) and those in need (disaster relief), but could not have been prepared for the call she received post-retirement that pulled her back into active duty, this time taking her halfway ‘round the world to help solve battery fires in Australia! 

This is one of the most fun and wild conversations we’ve published all year.

Expect to learn:

🔹 The hidden dangers of damaged lithium-ion batteries (and why we don’t just bury them)

🔹 Why the age-old truism “big fire, big water” doesn’t work for Batteries

🔹 How Tesla created a new role just to fix their fire communication gap

🔹 Why every developer needs to build relationships with local fire operators, not just permit offices

From Pentagon rescue missions on 9/11 to training Tesla teams, Kathleen’s insights are not only fun and eye-opening—they’re critical for every solar professional adding batteries to their portfolio.

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