The Therapist Thrival Guide

88. Is It Really ODD? Understanding What's Beneath the Behavior


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In this episode of the Therapist Thrival Guide, join Miranda, a licensed clinical social worker, alongside Letisha and Gina, as they candidly discuss Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD).

The discussion covers the DSM-5 criteria for ODD, its symptoms, and the stigma associated with the diagnosis. They explore alternative diagnoses, underlying issues like trauma, ADHD, and autism, and talk about effective treatment strategies including parent management training and cognitive-behavioral therapy.

The conversation also emphasizes the importance of seeing each child through a fresh and unbiased lens.

Timestamps:

02:32 Symptoms and Diagnostic Criteria of ODD

05:02 Challenges and Controversies in Diagnosing ODD

06:01 Personal Experiences and Case Studies

08:49 The Impact of Labels and Diagnoses on Children

21:59 Differential Diagnoses and Overlapping Conditions

23:42 Understanding ODD and ADHD Differences

24:09 Trauma and Its Impact on ODD

25:15 Foster Care and ODD Diagnoses

28:49 Mood Disorders and Autism in Relation to ODD

31:19 The Unique Aspect of Vindictiveness in ODD

34:06 Challenges in Diagnosing and Treating ODD

38:02 Effective Strategies for Managing ODD

44:48 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

The Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. We want to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of thriving by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you!

This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, LICSW and a rotating cast of seasoned therapists. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise to help us learn how to thrive as therapists.

Miranda Barker⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for over three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's currently the Director of Content and Production at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care.


The Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from ⁠Ellie Mental Health⁠. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#therapy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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