Today we talk with David Marshall, a dumbphone user, a father, and host of the atrocious pod, saved by the Belial.

https://www.atrociouspod.com/

my substack: https://tokutheologian.substack.com

alan jacobs rules on social media: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/jacobs/im-thinking-it-over/

i used to be a human being by andrew sullivan: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/09/andrew-sullivan-my-distraction-sickness-and-yours.html

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices