This week Ruth is talking to Paula Briggs, a ceramic artist focussing on narrative in craft. This conversation grew from a previous interview for Paula's Masters Degree in ceramics where she asked Ruth about research-based work, making a living from non-commercial making and communicating the stories behind the work. In this podcast they talk about all of this and more including the importance of making skills in industry and the absorbing and powerful nature of research in making. Podcast Series Two Crowdfunder is now open, please contribute if you can: ruthsinger.com/podcast