Do you know what happens when you combine the trauma of growing up as a PK (pastor's kid, of course) with the Game of Thrones-esque violence of the Roman Empire?

Well, you sort of get Julian the Apostate. 

Born in the era of Constantine's great conversion to Christianity, Julian was the last emperor not to be wooed by the Empire's new religious convictions. Raised on the classics and fascinated by a mix of cult religion and philosophy, Julian decided it was time to give paganism one last try. 

Also, the guys reminisce a little about how cool it was during the mixtape era of sermons, and how much life can humble a young guy in ministry. 

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