In this episode, David Priess talks with professor and author Marita Sturken about 9/11-related memorials, museums, and architecture. Her research and writings have examined everything from visual culture to the connection between memory and consumerism, with much of her recent work addressing memory of the attacks on September 11, 2001 as both the battleground and the site for negotiations of national identity.

In this conversation, they talk briefly about various historical memorials and the purposes of such work before comparing and contrasting some of the 9/11 memorials around the country and those at Ground Zero, next to the Pentagon, and in Somerset County, Pennsylvania. They also discuss controversies surrounding the National September 11 Memorial Museum (commonly called the "9/11 museum"), including those about its gift shop and the human remains currently stored in the facility.

Chatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Cara Shillenn of Goat Rodeo. Podcast theme by David Priess, featuring music created using Groovepad.

Among the works cited in this episode are:

Memorials, Museums, and related sites:

The National 9/11 Pentagon Memorial

Flight 93 National Memorial

The National September 9/11 Memorial and Museum

World Trade Center Oculus

Empty Sky Memorial in Jersey City, New Jersey

Reflect 9/11 memorial in Rosemead, California

Vietnam Veterans Memorial

The Korean War Veterans Memorial

WWII Memorial

Franklin Delano Roosevelt Memorial

Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial

Dwight D. Eisenhower Memorial

Books:

Terrorism in American Memory: Memorials, Museums, and Architecture in the Post-9/11 Era, by Marita Sturken

Tourists of History: Memory, Kitsch, and Consumerism from Oklahoma City to Ground Zero, by Marita Sturken

Tangled Memories: The Vietnam War, the AIDS Epidemic, and the Politics of Remembering, by Marita Sturken

Prosthetic Memory: The Transformation of American Remembrance in the Age of Mass Culture, by Alison Landsberg

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