Honestly, Dear Listener

92: Play & Rest & Why They're Not Stupid 10.03.25


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This week on the show, we talk about play and rest and how they’re kind of important parts to our creative practice. We talk about giving our minds a rest and letting our bodies take the wheel by choosing low-stakes experiments (waste the page) to loosen perfectionism. On the rest side, we talk about what it is (choice) and isn’t (doomscrolling).

We’re getting a little rebellious with this one—and perhaps even a tad wasteful *gasp*!


References:

  • Utah Shakespeare Festival - annual summer/fall theatre festival in Cedar City, UT

  • Into the Woods - 2014 Disney adaptation of the 1986 musical Into the Woods starring Meryl Streep and a bunch of other famous people

    • Stay with Me” - song from the 2014 Disney adaptation of the 1986 musical Into the Woods written by Stephen Sondheim and James Lapine Heartburn - novel by Nora Ephron, narrated by Meryl Streep
    • Tom Lake - novel by Ann Patchett, narrated by Meryl Streep
    • Aqueous Transmission” - song by Incubus
    • Get Ur Freak On” - song by Missy Elliott
    • The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy - novel by Douglas Adams
    • The Artist’s Way: A Spiritual Path to Higher Creativity, book by Julia Cameron


    TIMECODES
    0:00 - Intro
    2:04 - Get your “frisson”
    8:15 - Dance as play
    12:16 - Resistance to play
    18:13 - When did we stop playing?
    29:49 - Rest is radical

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